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Gun-Carrying Man Attends Lakewood City Council Meeting On Monday Night

Lakewood Police Chief Bret Farrar spoke to the man after the meeting, but there weren't any fireworks. It comes a week after a YouTube video showed an Oak Harbor City Councilman walking out of a meeting because a citizen carried a firearm.

You might have caught the viral YouTube video of the Oak Harbor City Councilman who walked out of a meeting because a citizen who brought a concealed weapon refused to give it up.

Because Army veteran Lucas Yonkman was carrying the gun legally, the video depicting Rick Almberg's controversial stance caught fire among social media, particularly among gun rights advocates. As of this column, it had been viewed almost 200,000 times.

How soon would we start seeing other residents carrying firearms at public meetings and events? If you answered any time later than Monday night, you're wrong.

The South Sound had its own brush with the concealed-weapon debate, and it happened here in Lakewood.

Here's the back story: I arrived at the Lakewood City Council meeting 30 minutes late Monday night because yours truly had to put out some journalistic fires he set earlier in the day. (Long story)

By the time I arrived, city leaders were interviewing candidates for the vacant position on their dais. The Council Chambers were about half full. I prefer sitting next to an electrical outlet, so I took the open seat in the front row, not really looking at the audience. I sure as heck didn't notice anybody in the crowd carrying a firearm.

The meeting concluded about 9 p.m., and I rushed back to the foyer to catch Police Chief Bret Farrar to, of all things, get his prediction for the Super Bowl. (Check back for that article later) As I'm about to chat with him, he gives me a, "Hold up. I need to talk to this guy."

I then turn around and notice, among the meeting-goers emerging from the Council Chambers, a man wearing what appeared to be a holster with at least one handgun, as well as two clips.

Farrar walked over to the man and the two started chatting out of my listening range. There was no yelling, no standoffs, nothing like that. The conversation lasted about a minute, then it was over.

The man left before I could speak to him, so I went back to conduct my interview with Farrar. Before we started, I asked him what his conversation with the armed meeting-goer was all about.

Basically, Farrar told the man that next time, he should alert any officers in the room (chief included) that he has a concealed weapon. The reason? Were gun violence to erupt inside the meeting space, officers would know that he's on their side.

Farrar doesn't come off as a guy who wants to infringe on gunowners' rights. He's a cop, so theoretically, he knows what is and isn't allowed better than almost anybody. But he brought up an interesting point.

If people attend public meetings carrying a concealed weapon, should they be required to let someone know they're packing? An officer perhaps? Is it anyone's business?

I can see Farrar's point. If anything, it's just a smart thing to do. Letting police know up front that you're carrying a firearm to protect yourself - and not to do something more sinister - might clear up confusion under more intense circumstances.

But I know not everyone will agree.

That's why I want to hear from you, Patch users. What do you think? Should people who attend public meetings or events carrying a firearm be required to let a police officer or government official know up front? Is it a good idea? Tell us in the comments below.

Thomas Magnum January 29, 2013 at 05:00 PM
I carry a cocealed at all times. In my line of work (private investigator) you never know if something will arrise. I agree that letting law enforcent, security and or anyone in charge in a public / private venue is common sense.
Dane Ferrell January 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM
The people attending the City Council meeting, as well as the Council member have the right to not allow any weapons in the meeting, or building, its time we start addressing someones right to not get shot by someone.
Larry Golden January 29, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Hey guys, that's the law. There are only a few places you cannot legally carry, and the City Council meeting is not one of them. It's your right. You don't need to advise anyone that you are carrying, period. If he was OC'ing, then everyone would see that, and its his right. If its concealed, then it stays that way and no one knows the difference. I have been a LEO and there is no way I am going to tell anyone in a meeting that I am carrying. Don't violate peoples rights because you don't know the law.
Rob H January 30, 2013 at 12:31 AM
If you attend a city counsel meeting and feel that your "right to not get shot" may be infringed upon, you then have the right to leave that meeting. Or anywhere else that someone is carrying for that matter. If you want to be able to attend meetings, shop for groceries, etc., and be sure that no one is carrying, then you'd better move to a country that doesn't grant their citizens the right to bare arms and defend themselves.
Kirk Parker January 30, 2013 at 01:08 AM
Dane, given that concealed carry is fairly common in WA (we have one of the higher rates of issuance of permits among the states), I'd say the chances are you are around concealed handguns quite often and you just don't know it.
Brent Champaco January 30, 2013 at 09:51 AM
One Facebook user wrote: "I think a good compromise is to let police know you have a CW at the meeting for exactly the reason stated. If you start banning them you're just inviting controversy and the extremists will be up in arms (pardon the pun). I believe if you're a responsible enough citizen to attend a council meeting, you're most likely able to handle having the CW. Just so we're clear, I do have a CWP and do believe if you have a gun capable of being concealed it's a reasonable gun. In defense of those who don't want guns, I can see that it would be intimidating. If you've ever been the victim of gun violence you would understand."
Dan January 30, 2013 at 11:39 PM
The police chief needs to mind his own business. He shouldn't be trying to intimidate citizens who are doing nothing wrong, and giving them miss-information.
Jawbone Kent January 31, 2013 at 08:42 AM
You get offended when someone is carrying a concealed weapon? If its concealed then how do you know it's there? I get offended when two men or women are holding hands and kissing each other in my presence. Point is, everyone is offended about something.. I got one for you, Man up and quit being a %%%**..! If you people are that parinoid then stay home.
Mikey February 02, 2013 at 01:07 PM
Being a Law Enforcement Officer myself I understand the Chiefs concerns. In theory, it would be a good idea to notify any LEO's at the event. Chief Farrar has made it clear, he would not infringe upon anyones right to carry concealed legally. Other LEO's are not as well informed as Chief Farrar. Until you know the LEO's in attendance attitude toward carrying concealed it might be better to keep it to yourself. Remember though, if you pull a weapon to defend yourself in front of LEO's they do not know if you are a good guy or a bad guy. If Law Enforcement is at the event it may be best to let them handle any situation before you pull out your own weapon to defend yourself.
Herman Goetjen February 05, 2013 at 02:26 AM
Actually you are wrong here. You might want to read the Washington state constitution Article 1 section 24, then RCW 9.41.290, and RCW 9.41,300. BTW: The presence of a legally carried weapon is most likely to result in your NOT getting shot. Maybe that is why all of these mass shooting only happen where firearms are restricted?
Herman Goetjen February 05, 2013 at 02:35 AM
When I attended last month's city council meeting in Tonasket, I was carrying, as I always do, but no questions from anyone as I was openly carrying, not concealed...no-one complained. But then the Chief was there too...and he was also carrying openly as most officers do on a normal basis. Amazingly, no weapons jumped out of their holsters and started a rampage...Remember, a pistol is a tool, it is not dangerous in and of itself. People can be dangerous, but weapons cannot, just like automobiles can be dangerous, but not without a human actor. Like any potential weapon, an automobile can do nothing on it's own.
Herman Goetjen February 05, 2013 at 02:44 AM
This is kind of how I understood it to..as a courtesy. I have no problem with that, even though it is my custom to open carry, not conceal.
John Phoenix February 14, 2013 at 08:31 AM
I strongly disagree. In my state it's legal to open carry as long as your so many feet from a government building, school or where otherwise posted. It's the cops responsibility to know the gun laws in the state. It's not my responsibility as a law abiding citizen to spend my time telling cops what they should already know. If open carry became popular, do you then expect hundreds or thousands of people stop and alert every cop they can find? This is silly and infringes on citizens rights. Cops should know your state's laws, let citizens be until you observe a crime committed - as is your job.

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