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QUESTION: Should Clover Park High Change its Mascot's Name?

The state Board of Education is encouraging all Washington schools to replace Native American mascots, according to The Associated Press. That includes the Warriors in Lakewood. We ask you, Patch users, do you think the mascot should be replaced?

QUESTION: Should the Clover Park High take up the state Board of Education's recommendation and change the name of its mascot, the Warrior?

The Associated Press is reporting that the state Board of Education is encouraging all schools with Native American names to replace them.

The state board passed a resolution on Wednesday urging districts to stop using Native American mascots, the AP reported via The Seattle Times:

In the past decade, about 10 schools have given up their Indian mascots. But another 50, including tribal schools, are holding fast to their nicknames as warriors, braves, redskins and red devils.

In Lakewood, the mascot of one of its major high schools - Clover Park - is the Warriors.

The board can't require schools to change their mascots, but it is strongly encouraged, in part, to change any negative perceptions of Native Americans.

Nothing has come up formally among the Clover Park School District to change the name. We know there is a lot of history and tradition behind the name, so we put the question to you, Patch users.

Should the Clover Park High take up the state Board of Education's recommendation and change the name of its mascot, the Warrior? Tell us in the comments below.

Sherry Benic September 29, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Sounds like a great compromise. I'm sure students and alum have strong feelings for the name of their mascot. It would be great if the student body supported such a change.
Brent Champaco September 29, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Good idea. Clover Park students - what do you think?
Wyatt F. September 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM
I don't see why we need to change our mascot. I understand in cases like "redskins" or "red devils" those have very negative connotations, but warrior? Warrior. Most people don't attach negativity to that term. I don't see our mascot as disrespectful to Native Americans in any way, especially considering we don't even have an actual mascot that comes to games or anything. Changing the mascot would also cost our school a lot of money to paint over all the murals, get rid of the totem pole in the gathering hall, change uniforms, develop a new logo, etc. Plus, if they did try to change the warrior name, I can imagine my peers and the community as a whole would give a lot of push back. -Wyatt F., ASB President
Brent Champaco September 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Excellent points, Wyatt. Thanks so much for giving a student's perspective. I never really saw the negative connotation, either. I always thought the term "Warrior" was associated with strength, courage, etc.
exoticdoc2 September 30, 2012 at 12:24 AM
Just more PC rubbish.
Christie Anderson September 30, 2012 at 01:20 AM
Don't submit to unnecessary PC pressure.
Look4Good September 30, 2012 at 01:47 AM
The whole point of a mascot is to have something in which to take pride, to rally around. As person with native American heritage, I think the Warrior mascot is a symbol of honor. Keep it.
jonathan tyler delgado September 30, 2012 at 02:55 AM
I am a Clover Park football player and to me "warrior" isn't a word or a mascot, it's a way of life. we live the warrior code and love the name and title. so this name is not a negative thing, in any way shape or form. in fact it is the exact opposite we give meaning and praise to the name, so therefore it is a very positive reinforcement on the name. i am proud to call myself a clover park warrior. -Tyler Delgado center, #70 warrior football team
Jennifer Chancellor September 30, 2012 at 04:16 AM
As a Clover Park graduate, I am terrified at the prospect of them changing the mascot to the Clovers. Seriously. This is not "Bring It On." I was proud -- and still am proud -- to be a Warrior. The word evokes strength, determination and the willingness to battle on, even in adversity. Kind of like what it means to go to Clover Park, which has always unfortunately lived in Lakes' shadow. ;)
Brent Champaco September 30, 2012 at 04:42 AM
My favorite point from Jonathan: "We give meaning and praise to the name, so therefore it is a very positive reinforcement on the name." For the Clover Park team, the name is a source of strength. Thanks for sharing, Jonathan, and good luck this season.
Lori Colbo September 30, 2012 at 04:01 PM
I agree with Jennifer. Warriors has a positive, honorable connotation. What do folks from the Native American heritage think? Do you find it offensive? God bless.
sudee September 30, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Good for you Wyatt, as an old grad I agree!
debbalee September 30, 2012 at 04:40 PM
Maybe this would be a good "in play" civics lesson for students; what about a collaboration with the Puyallup and Nisqually tribes to investigate whether *they* think the name honors them or puts them down. Then, a choice could be made from there.
Klondiko September 30, 2012 at 05:09 PM
What about losing seasons? Would be great if they won all the time.
Pugetsounder September 30, 2012 at 05:26 PM
As a part Sioux I am not in the least offended. Please stop with all of the PC already!
'Susi Longfellow September 30, 2012 at 05:38 PM
YES! I AGREE
'Susi Longfellow September 30, 2012 at 05:43 PM
"CAN PLEASE SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME....CAN'T PLEASE ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME... sound familiar? should, SUSI Sun. 9/30
'Susi Longfellow September 30, 2012 at 05:44 PM
LOL THEY'VE BEEN DEBATING THIS FOR Y E A R S!
Mike Darrah September 30, 2012 at 05:57 PM
Wyatt, I couldn't agree more. And who has ever thought that 'Warriors' was a derogatory term. And as mentioned above we can also remember and honor our JBLM warriors. Leave the name intact and get over it. The state Board of Education should be worrying about PSAT's and SAT's.
Momma Kat Dulay September 30, 2012 at 06:40 PM
I'm the mother of a Clover Park grad and I also help out at te school..........our Warriors are strong and proud.........the district has talked about changing the name for a few years now........leave it be and worry about more pressing issues.........and to the person up top^^^^^^^^^^ "Klondiko".............you can't win all games all the time........but win or lose, our Clover Park Warriors stand strong and tall all the time.......go WARRIORS!!!
Shawn Munsey September 30, 2012 at 11:22 PM
As a second generation CP grad, I have always been so proud to call myself a Clover Park Warrior, and honored to have the warrior as our mascot. I think when schools choose a mascot, they pick something they hold in high regard; something that is positive, and honored. Please don't change our proud heritage at Clover Park High School! Shawn Munsey, CP class of 1980. GO WARRIORS!
Lucile Summerlin September 30, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Too much political correctness. I grew up with the word Indians, and didn't think negatively about it. The PC folks are putting foolish ideas into the heads of kids. Just because you're an Indian AKA Native American, doesn't mean you will fail. Tey should be proud to live in America, just like the "white skins", and prove they are true "warriors".
Harborite October 01, 2012 at 01:48 AM
I don't think of any specific ethnic group of people with the term warriors...I think of our strong, brave soldiers ...works for me.
Jack October 01, 2012 at 04:19 AM
I think we should also change the mascot at Curtis. Using the Viking as their mascot is disrespectful to people of Scandinavian ancestry. While we're at it, my dog has a problem with the University of Washington using the Husky for its mascot.
'Susi Longfellow October 01, 2012 at 04:33 AM
TY 4 making me chuckle b4 bed. :) night (I'm an hour later here.)
John Arbeeny October 01, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Yep! PC run amok. Something is always going to be offensive to somebody. Allegedly the reason behind this push for mascot changes is that 50% of Native Americans don't graduate from HS: a "factoid" I can't confirm. Just how will a mascot name change increase their graduation rate given that most schools do not have Native American related mascots? Pretty far fetched. Like most PC, this is about a vocal minority pushing around a compacent majority: rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. It's all about power. What's so insidious about PC is that it replaces logical thinking about real problems with emotional "feel good" about non-problems and nothing of importance gets changed.
Dennis Bauer October 01, 2012 at 07:31 PM
I don't see it as PC at all. I see it as PW ...Political Wrongness. What are they thinking down there in Olympialand? To take a term of respect, a character quality to be admired and attained, that comes from a people group ...how is that a bad thing? I wish I was Indian (sorry ...Native American) so I could claim to be a Warrior! Where does it stop? Seahawks ...bad birds for being strong and ferocious. Mariners ...bad people for discovering America. Lancers ...bad knights for sticking it to people. Please use common sense, board of educators. Wait! Bad term, "educators" ...implies a group of people (helpless children, no less!) who are substandard in knowledge, sets up an upper class of those with expertise and superior knowledge, harms the self-respect and dignity of those lesser, intellectually-challenged folks who need what the superior class, the "educators," have. Would that our Board of Education was less board and more Warrior!
Patsy St.Germain October 02, 2012 at 01:18 AM
I'am an Indian, Turtle Mountain Chippewa Tribe and I live in Lakewood and my daughter graduated from Clover Park. I do not think the name "Warriors" is a bad or derogatory term. I also went to school in Cle Elum with the Cle Elum Warriors as our team and I'am very proud that our teams are chosen to represent the fighting spirit of a Warrior. I hope it never gets changed!! Very proud to be an Indian and a "Warrior".
John W. October 03, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Why do we need to be concerned what Clover Park does with the name of their mascot. it's in Lakewood, not U.P.
Chelsea Dingman October 26, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Thats right! We do stand strong! #Proud To Be A Warrior!

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